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Hi and thanks ahead for your help, I have an 18 yo female kitty who has kidney disease with following numbers: creatinine 2.6 and BUN 51.
I understand there is the high quality protein vs low protein debate and am torn between giving her a normal high quality raw food mix such as RAD cat raw product with high quality protein and added nutrients vs Hills K/D diet which from my research is a lower quality lower protein value. Thanks ahead for your advice.
The debate is not well explained on public web site b/c most people do not understand the issue. In general: protein amount can be lower as the protein QUALITY (which is rated based on the amino acid profile, not the source) increases. In fact the cat does not have a protein requirement (as most folks believe) but has an requirement for nitrogen (which does come from protein) and a very particular amino acid. So if the kidney has decreased function for removing nitrogen waste then the total amount of excess nitrogen (from protein ) should be lowered but never below the animal's actual requirement. The biggest source of confusion to folks reading the lay or popular press verbiage on dietary management of renal disease is the use of "high" vs. "low" and they do not know the reference range or starting point relative to what is considered "high" or "low". And then if you use a high quality protein, the cat needs less of it to meet it's nitrogen and amino acid requirments with less excess nitrogen to filter out. If you feed a low quality protein, a higher total amount is needed to meet the essential amino acid requirements, but you will have excess nitrotgen to filter and blood BUN will rise. If you were to look into the essential amino acid profile of k/d or the protein sources in k/d and compare them to the cat's requirement, you should actually be impressed with the quality and utility of the diet to met but not exceed the nirogen and amino acid needs of most cats. The amouint needed but be deterined for each pateint because not all renal disease is the same in cats (some retain and some lose), and the disease progresses, so monitoring is key.The debate is not done well on public web site b/c most people do not understand the issue. In general: protein amount can be lower as the protein QUALITY (which is rated based on the amino acid profile, not the source of the protein) increases.
In fact the cat does not have a protein requirement (as most folks go on and on about) but has a requirement for nitrogen (which does come from protein) and a very particular essential amino acid profile. So if the kidney has decreased function for removing nitrogen waste then the total amount of excess nitrogen (from protein) should be lowered but never below the animal's actual requirement. The biggest source of confusion to folks reading the lay or popular press verbiage on dietary management of renal disease is the use of "high" vs. "low" and they do not know the reference range or starting point relative to what is then considered "high" or "low". If you use a high quality protein, the cat needs less of total nitrogen to meet its amino acid requirements, so with less excess nitrogen has to be filtered out. If you feed a low quality protein, a higher total amount is needed to meet the essential amino acid requirements, but you will have excess nitrogen to filter and blood BUN will rise.
If you were to look into the essential amino acid profile of k/d or the protein sources in k/d and other feline renal diets and compare them to the cat's requirement, you should actually be impressed with the quality and utility of the diet to meet but not exceed the nitrogen and amino acid needs of most cats. The amount needed must be determined for each patient because not all renal disease is the same in cats (some retain and some lose protein), and the disease progresses, so monitoring is key. Per usual, it is much more complicated and more difficult to do well, than most arm-chair nutritionist have decided to simplify upon when given a public venue such as a web site, chat, blog or twits.
I have a pit mix that seems to have allergies, I feed him reg. science diet. I have worked for a vet that does not believe he has a food allergy. He also has gotten a few steroid shots that seem to clear him up and then it comes back. I was wondering, what you recommend, and if I still should be feeding science diet or switch him to something else. He doesn't seemed bothered by it, but he always seems to have a yeasty smell to him and have to often bath him. I don't know what to do with him or where to begin. I would appreciate any recommendations you may have. Thank you
I would suggest a 12 wk food trial using a veterinary therapeutic diet (exclusively) with a novel protein to this dog. If the dog gets better then you have some evidence for a food protein allergy and then know what foods to feed. If the dog does not get better in 12 wks, then a food protein is not causing the problems. You must go the full 12 wks for a skin problem before making a decision about the success of the new food.
I recently bought a GSD puppy - he is now almost 5 months old. The breeder discourages the use of "puppy" stage foods, saying they promote growth at a rate that is too fast. She recommended feeding "all life stages" Canidae. It has been years since I had my last puppy, but I do know that puppy foods are developed with the needs of a growing puppy in mind, so I decided to do a 50/50 mix of Purina ProPlan Puppy food and Canidae Chicken & Rice for all life stages. Do you think this is sufficient for my puppy, or should I be feeding him only puppy food? The breeder also recommended supplementing Vitamin C - is this necessary or even beneficial? I also used to supplement all my adult large dogs with Dasuquin with MSM. Would you recommend continuing this and, if so, at what age should I start the puppy on the Dasuquin? Thank you!
Sounds like the Breeder is not clear on AAFCO statements. A food with an "all lifestage" claim is in fact designed for puppies ...... However, her logic is correct about the growth rate but flawed in that Large Breed Puppy foods or Large breed Growth products are designed to achieve a slower growth rate when feed according to instructions. Vit C is a very old myth ... it will not make any difference to the orthopedic health of your pup but you can feed it as it usually causes not harm. Yes I would agree with feeding GSD Dasuquin with MSM there is very good data on that being a positive.
I have a 4 year old labrador who has allergies to several things and is on immunotherapy for this, he is also allergic to poultry as this causes colitis. I have tried several high quality diets e.g hills, royal canin, wafcol etc which i know isnt ideal as it is changing his diet regularly which also may not be helping however i am struggling to find a food that doesnt cause him problems, he does also have a luxating hip so i have tried to give a large breed diet for the glucosamine etc any advice would be gratefully appreciated as im very stuck as to what to feed him
If the dog is reacting to a FOOD protein then yes, you should be feeding a single novel food protein diet. You cannot use any OTC dog food to test for food allergies. The OTC food produced is contaminated with other food proteins. You should do a 3 month strict food trial feeding a novel (not ever previously eaten) protein, and if the dog is no better then, he is not food reactive and you can feed whatever you want because the allergies are environmental. If the dog is better then you could remain on the food or try a different novel protein if you wanted variety, etc.
Is it ok to feed a puppy only on chicken and rice? Will he be deprived of nutrients by doing this?
Yes most definitely. We can help you correctly balance the diet for a puppy if you wish to continue feeding a homemade diet.
What is the optimal protein content (percentage) and the optimal calcium content in a large and giant breed puppy food and if only minimal percentage of calcium or no percentage is given, how can I know what the true content is?
The research indicates that 25-35% protein and 0.9-1.1% calcium on a dry matter basis will help minimize the clinical expression of DOD in large breed dogs. Correct you cannot use the information on the bag. You will have to call the company or search online to find the nutrient target levels for the product. The name and contact information for the company is required by law to be on the bag. Product information on the web may not be accurate unless you are on the company's web site.
Hello. I am a Veterinarian. A breeder of English Mastiffs has been told by another breeder that she should limit the protein in her 6 week old pups and should supplement with Vitamin C. I told her that I do not think that is the best thing to do. Please comment. Thanks
Both are incorrect. Feeding Vit C is thought of no value but probably not harmful. The protein level is not protective of Development Ortho Diseases, in fact was clearly shown 10-15 yrs ago in a series of well-done studies that protein has nothing to do with DOD. However calcium and energy intake does sig affect growth and so feeding a properly designed large breed puppy food is key to minimizing the clinical expression of DOD.
I would like to have some homemade recipes for a Bichon Frise 8yo , who has had two bladder surgeries for stones in the bladder the oxalate type. I have been using Hill's Science UD with the daily addition of CitraVet-faithfully added. I would appreciate any advice you have regarding this matter.
There is no diet that is 100% effect against this stone. The best you can do is to be sure the urine specific gravity is less that 1.020 and the urine pH is between 6.8 and 7.4. If this is not true on the canned u/d product, then you need to add water to effect and additional potassium citrate to effect. You need to check these urine benchmarks. If you need more help with this problem or the dog is gaining too much weight on the high fat u/d, please let me know.
I have a 7 year old Chocolate Lab that the vet tells me she has a thyroid problem which she is on medication for but that she also has allergies that she takes benedryl 2x daily for. She never seems to get over the allergies. Her eyes are always red and her ears frequently have yeast infections. We have tried NUMEROUS foods to try to alleviate some of her medical problems but haven't had a lot of success. What would you suggest?
The dog may not have a food allergy but environmental allergies, so then you can feed any food you wish. The dog may have an allergy to food mites .... has the dog been tested for environment allergies using a blood test? If the problem is with the food, and you wish to conduct a food trial, we can help you with that rather easily.
Can you please give me some information regarding a balanced homemade dog food for dogs with food allergies. If possible if you could give me some recipes it will be greatly appreciated
If the dog only has a food allergy and no other medical conditions ...... Certainly. Go to
. You begin the process by logging into your account or opening an account for you, your pet and link it to your Vet info, then click on ‘Homemade diets’ (upper left) dog and cat picture. Select the “all options” to see all of our ingredient options or the novel protein diet.
You may select ingredients similar to those you are now feeding if they are successful or select a protein source the dog has not previously eaten. The software will re-balance your diet properly and suggest vitamin & trace mineral supplements. The cost is $25 for the first recipe and $12 for each thereafter purchased at the same time. Recipes are available for immediate download after payment.
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